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Agora' Internet - 18 gennaio 1995
The Pro-death penalty argument

From: dandorry@cnct.com

To: Multiple recipients of list

Subject: The Pro-death penalty argument

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To members of this mailing list:

I recently posted a note in which I expressed support for the death

penalty. While I realize that the purpose of this mailing list is to provide

an avenue of communication amongst those of you (a small minority, I might

add) who oppose capital punishment, I think it is both prudent and educational

to keep dialogue open, especially on such an important matter.

A few of you have replied to my posting with your arguments against

the death penalty, and they all take on these forms:

1. Capital punishment is brutal, inhumane, and is an affront to civilized

persons everywhere.

2. CP raises the level of brutality in society, and would eventually heighten

violent tendencies in people.

3. There is statistical evidence that "proves" that CP is not an effective

deterrent.

4. The crime problem can not be solved through punishment, but through

remedying social ills that are the root cause of crime.

* * * *

Argument # 1 is incomprehensible. CP is a reasoned response to the

overwhelming problem of violence in society. It is not inhumane to prevent the

incorrigibly violent from committing heinous acts against innocent,

law-abiding citizens by dealing with them quickly and absolutely. More

inhumane is caging them in an 8 X 8 jail cell for decades at a time. Moreover,

criminals in jails may escape or be paroled, at which time they are free to

commit further atrocities. CP is the ultimate special deterrent; as such, it

prevents the convicted offender from further harming society.

Argument # 2 is equally incomprehensible. EXACTLY WHO is going to

become more brutal or inhuman through the implementation of CP? The criminal?

How can murder or rape become MORE brutal? Do the opponents of CP have

blueprints showing gradients of brutality? If not the criminal, then who?

Law-abiding citizens?? How? Will the fact that our streets are safer and our

living standards raised somehow breed an hitherto unknown hostility in each of

us that will vent itself on a national scale? Come now, people, this argument

is sophomoric.

Argument # 3 may indeed be true. (I have not seen comprehensive

statistical studies, but I have vague recollections of scattered studies done

in various parts of the US and Europe that suggest CP in not a deterrent). But

even if # 3 is true, that is not an argument against CP, but an argument

against the WAY CP HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED. An example: the State of New Jersey

has embraced the death penalty since gaining statehood, yet only THREE people

have been executed in NJ's history! Where is the deterrence to be found in a

law that is not enforced? Let's face it, the US Supreme Court's expansionist

reading of the due process clause in the last thirty years has rendered CP

totally impotent. But that is not an argument against CP, but against lack of

enforcement.

In response to those who argue that European countries without the death

penalty have lower crime rates than the US, I say this: lower (violent) crime

rates in those countries exist not BECAUSE of the absence of CP but DESPITE

it. I hope the statistical argument put forth by some of you concentrate on

VIOLENT CRIME. The death penalty is a punishment for criminals who are most

violent, most resistant to rehabilitation. I do not argue that CP will lower

the crime rate in all categories (but only those categories punishable by

death). So to say that the European OVERALL crime rate is lower than that of

the US is to completely miss the issue. Can someone provide a study that

measures violent crime rates in areas that never practice CP and areas that

practice it frequently (perhaps Cuba)?

At any rate, one can not compare the European crime phenomenon with the US

crime phenomenon. The enormous heterogenity of American culture, with its

gaping class discrepancies and racial tensions, are (comparatively speaking)

unknown to Europeans (who are largely all of the same color, share a common

history, speak the same tongue, etc). Most of the violent crime committed in

America is committed by black Americans. The remark is not meant to offend

anyone, but to illustrate that the nature of the American crime problem is

different than the crime problems of other nations. What is the black

population (or its analogue) in European countries? In what great numbers are

there disenfranchised, impoverished, marginalized people of a different color

in, say, Sweden? You begin to see the point, I'm sure.

I agree 100% with Argument # 4. But CP is not proffered (not by me,

anyway) as a SOLUTION to crime. It is not even a solution to violent crime.

But it is a viable, and I believe, effective, first step towards making

society safer, better. It will make society safer and better in the following

ways:

a. it will act as a general deterrent to those who may contemplate acts

of violence by instilling in people the notion that very bad acts

WILL be VERY SEVERELY punished (this is not a reality now even in

areas that legalize CP);

b. it will act as a special deterrent against the violent criminals

themselves, ensuring that they never harm society again (there is no

argument against this claim . . . if you believe nothing else I say,

you must agree that CP makes society safer by ending the potential

threat of a violent criminal);

c. revenues spent on sustaining those criminals who would otherwise

(if CP was implemented effectively) be killed for their crimes could

be better channeled into social programs that emphasize education,

early intervention, rehabilitation;

d. it will instill in the citizenry a renewed faith in the justice

system, and will lower instances of vigilantism, and empower victims

of rape (ie, women) to report those crimes (yes, I believe under

certain circumstances, rape ought to be punishable by death);

One last note . . . I would like to conduct an informal survey, if I may. The

survey question is this:

If Adolf Hitler was captured after WWII, tried and convicted at Nuremberg,

what would have been an appropriate sentence?

Thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,

Daniel A. Dorry, Esq.

 
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