Subject: Re: CP Legislation
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Dear HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET:
The other day you wrote:
"nothing you have said, or written indicates I, or The country's
founders are wrong [about CP]."
Au contrare, HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET, EVERYTHING I have said indicates your
position is the weaker one. And I find it an amusing conceit that you align
yourself (dubiously) with the country's Founders, as though this gives you
some manner of credibility. Since you have said nothing even remotely
intelligent on the subject of CP (in fact, all you have done is rant
incoherently about "injustice" and the "innocent victims") you have no
credibility at all. You, like others on this list, seek to argue not by
employing reason, but by appealing to the emotions of the vulnerable masses,
who are always eager to side with a cause which appears just on the surface,
but is, upon closer scrutiny, fundamentally unjust and counterproductive.
"I only want you to assure me that no innocents will ever be murdered in the
name of justice!"
If you had the ability to follow a conversation, a train of thought, an
argument, then you would realize that I have conceded that no such assurance
is available. Nevertheless, CP ought to be implemented as its enormous
benefits to society would greatly overshadow its shortcomings.
"Now to what these founders (who accepted CP) said: Jefferson, Paine &
Franklin said
when establishing the legal foundations of the current criminaljustice system;
"Better for eight guilty men to go free, then for one innocent person to be
unjustly imprisoned."
Is that ipse dixit method of argument supposed to persuade me,
HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET? Gee, if Jefferson said it, I guess it must be true? I'm
not persuaded by WHO does the talking, HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET, but by WHAT is
being said. The above quote is a mere opinion, and as such, has little
positive or persuasive value. If you want to get philosophical,
HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET, the please tell us WHY it is better for eight men to go
free. And when the Founders said this, were they thinking of eight men guilty
of murder or rape or treason, or thinking of men guilty of petty crimes? How
could it possibly be better for eight murderers to go free than for one
innocent man to be unjustly imprisoned or even killed? But these numbers do
not speak of reality, anyway, do they, HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET? What are the
real numbers of those unjustly imprisoned for capital crimes? They are
insignificant in larger picture of social justice.
You see, HSNYDE31@MAINE.BITNET, upon closer scrutiny, your impassioned plea
for your version of justice is really just a half-baked, nonsensical ideology
which you refuse to abandon because of ignorance or arrogance, or both.
"I sir would rather be unjustly imprisoned, then murdered."
I'm sure you meant to use the word "than" instead of "then" but either way
your statement is senseless, your powers of expression completely impotent.
Sincerely,
Daniel A. Dorry, Esq.
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